AU ideas

Jan. 17th, 2011 02:55 am
thekingsgambit: (how easily we can live inside a lie)
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I'm putting this up for input since I unfortunately work tomorrow, and I know some of the cast may not.

For AU week, I was thinking of playing Prince Lelouch who had still lost Marianne to "an assassin" but never pulled the stunt that got him booted out of Britannia. So he never ended up in Japan, except for maybe a visit to another sibling. I don't know how that part works. But for the most part, yeah Britannian. Still hates Britannia, even though he's fully a part of it and resents Daddy. But has been raised to eye the throne the same as anyone so yeah still has plenty of family-killing vibes left in him. Still trained with Knightmares. But much much more haughty and Britannian royal-like and with their touch of xenophobia.

So who's with me and wants to join in on the scenario?

Date: 2011-01-17 08:11 am (UTC)
pizzapathy: (bemusement)
From: [personal profile] pizzapathy
I think that sounds awesome. 8D

I'm not sure what I'd do with C.C., but I also JUST heard about this event so I haven't had a lot of time to think about it. If you or anyone else has any ideas feel free to toss them my way and I'll try to think up some stuff on my own in the meantime!

Date: 2011-01-18 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
Well, I kinda want Lelouch to know C.C. Not sure about Geass yet; that can be your call. But if he never got sent away when he was young, and C.C.'s always been stalking him, as canon indicated about his summer in Japan maybe C.C. and Lelouch met when Lelouch was still a child in this verse. Not sure if Nunnally knows her but probably?

Unless you had a particular AU idea already in mind.

Date: 2011-01-20 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
Scratch that first scenario. How about instead CC has ended up with Suzaku instead of Lelouch in this verse? Why? Because of whatever was going on with that whole resonance thing between Suzaku and Geass in S1 that was promptly dropped in R2. If canon can be vague, so can we! Of course, Suzaku also has Geass~. I'll let her explain what Suzaku's power would be.

You're lucky Suzaku has a soft spot for girls, C.C.

Date: 2011-01-20 07:03 am (UTC)
pizzapathy: (heh heh heh)
From: [personal profile] pizzapathy
SOUNDS GOOD \o/

Date: 2011-01-17 04:25 pm (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (refrain)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
I am up for brainstorming?!

I admit, the main appeal for me is swapping camp!Cornelia into a world where Euphie's alive! But lol timing, and I'm not sure what I'd do with Cornelia, since changes in her would be negligible beyond the whole "uhh, where am I?" thing. Also, I want to use the deaging, if anything, to toy with her xenophobia again.

So tentatively interested, but I'll have to think on it much more.

Date: 2011-01-17 08:23 pm (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (let all who merit twirl the hair)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
OKAY SCRATCH THAT, I can definitely put an attitude together that'll be different to play. :|a

Date: 2011-01-18 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
I am a a-curious! I also figured Prince!Lelouch would be on better terms with some of his family, having grown up with them instead of being left on his own to fester an old hurt. Though he'd probably still have super-rivalry with Schneizel, but he might be more inclined to Cornelia's teachings, as they are already so very similar.

But tell me your concept!

Date: 2011-01-18 01:53 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (backdrop)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
I don't have a concept! I actually get stuck on how to change her enough since I don't put quiiiite as much importance on the assassination/vibritanniadeaths when it comes to Cornelia's actions and motivations thereafter. Even the easier dynamic with Lelouch might not change things on her end, since "hey, strange zombie camp!" begs more professional circumstances, and they're already pretty good at being professional with each other.

By attitude, I meant toward camp, but then again what I had in mind would be hard to sustain for a week, so I'm not sure anymore. \o.O/

Date: 2011-01-18 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
Well, I was also thinking along the lines that she might have trained him because he's always been somewhat interested in military. So instead of his strategies coming from chess and learning-as-he goes, they would be more honed and professional. He already does this as Zero, but he would be more likely to show it in general mannerisms.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:06 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (-[ capricorn ]-)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
I'm still not sure what would change on Cornelia's end, which is where my problem lays.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:07 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (good morning starshine)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
Unless we're just talking about what you'll do on Lelouch's end, in which case that is fine. But I don't know what else to contribute...

Date: 2011-01-18 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
I was sharing more ideas from my head that I hoped might spur ideas.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:18 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (zz thoughts on wingfic)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
I have ideas to develop AU stuff, just nothing to put into play. It'd be a lot easier to play her as uneffected (also, I played the amnesia event relatively recently) but I want her to get to go home to Euphie for a week.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
Hmm, you have a good point. It might be more interesting to play nonAU!Cornelia in this scenario. but yeah chance to go back to Euphie would also be nice.

What about ideas to develop AU stuffs?

Date: 2011-01-18 03:16 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (s-snap)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
Depends. I've always said that if Marianne hadn't died, Cornelia would have been more defensively protective instead throwing herself full-force into Operation: One Rule. Her personality would remain the same, as would the extent of her actions — she was severe and capable of ruthless cruelty before Marianne died, imo — but there are different courses that she could have taken. She's always had a knightly attitude, so there's that. She might not have been so quick to refuse the GG position of Japan when Schneizel first offered it to her, so there's that too if you wanted a reason for Lelouch to be in Japan more (she could have taken the vi-sibs & Euphie, since I don't think... the vis, at least, would have much support on the mainland without her, but maybe you want to have them build that themselves, I don't know.)

I was thinking a more "you tell me what you want, I work with it" thing because, like I said, this means so much less for Cornelia than it does for everyone else. It's easiest for me to facilitate.

Date: 2011-01-18 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
I do love this "if Marianne hadn't died" scenario for Cornelia. I don't think it would be a bad idea to have people from different verses if you want to go with this.

But I am also intrigued by the idea of the vis and Euphie going to Japan should Cornelia take her GG position early on. Lelouch would probably relish the chance to gain first-hand knowledge of the rest of the empire, and it might still be difficult for him to have the access he wants at his age.

Date: 2011-01-18 04:02 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (-[ context ]-)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
Nah, splitting the AU would just be messy. And I play Cornelia as taking a defensive stance now, so it'd be nice to go back to aggressive "I want you under my rule, bitch" Cornelia. She's still far more entertaining as a conqueror.

\o/

Date: 2011-01-18 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
I actually like the idea of Cornelia taking everybody to Japan. It makes sense too.
Edited Date: 2011-01-18 03:45 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-01-18 04:03 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (fair play)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
It always makes sense to relocate your younger siblings into the heart of a war zone. :|a

Date: 2011-01-18 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
Better a war zone than back-stabbing relatives? So Britannian. :D

Date: 2011-01-18 04:16 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (stealth)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
Now all we need to do is keep at least a 100km desert perimiter around the government building and we'll be set...

...

Maybe Lelouch shouldn't be allowed inside said perimeter.

Date: 2011-01-18 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
We can fill said perimeter with deadly traps/obstacles and big brother will have good incentive to exercise whenever he comes back from school.

Date: 2011-01-18 04:20 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (pink)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
Ooh, it'll keep out strays too!

Date: 2011-01-18 04:24 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (organic)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
Vicious Eleven attack dogs.

Date: 2011-01-18 04:28 am (UTC)
ascendthethorns: (quit the bank)
From: [personal profile] ascendthethorns
OKAY FINE, we'll only use them to potentially maim your brother.

Date: 2011-01-18 04:32 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-01-17 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
I love it! And I'd totally AU my Nunnally from the same verse if it was not for timing. ;;

But yes, go for it. It's going to be awesome. And now that I think about it, giving this Lelouch a blind and crippled sister would be traumatic beyond words. :D

Date: 2011-01-18 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
Well, I thought if Marianne got assassinated, that would mean Nunnally would still have been crippled. Unless you wanted to play it where that part of the scenario never came into the occasion. In that case, Lelouch would still be protective of Nunnally (because of what happened to his mother) but he wouldn't need to be constantly wary of letting her do her own thing either. He'd just be regularly communicating with her as far as where she was and monitor.

Date: 2011-01-18 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
My proposal would be more along the lines of she never being crippled or blinded in HIS verse. I wonder what kind of effect the Britannian "strong governing the poor" ideology would have on him if his sister had never been weak. And how he'd react to being in a verse where she actually was.

Thoughts?

Date: 2011-01-18 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
Well, Lelouch always had a general issue with the Britannian system because of the way the vi Britannians were reviled for not being of traditional pure blood. We still values motivation and personal ability over being born a winner, as is the "ideology" of Charles. But as far as "strong governing the poor," I think he would be more inclined toward that mentality since he thinks it's for their own good, and it's not necessarily a power issue for him. It's more of his "I know what's best for everyone and how to take care of them" way of thinking. Just on a grander scale because he would have the opportunity to nurture that belief. But I also think he would be more accepting of personal drive regardless of status than others in his family. It would intrigue him since Lelouch is still aware of his own shortcomings. It's still "The fighting will end when someone wins" but with him more on the side of Britannia, being that he wants Britannia. Almost a warped "change the system from within."

Date: 2011-01-18 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
That makes perfect sense.

I think it'd better if I didn't AU my Nunnally, since having her from canon verse might actually create more tension when other characters get AUed. Plus, I fail at having time for this. ;;

That said, I think AU Nunnally probably followed Marianne's footsteps and became amazingly good at KF piloting and stuff. And I bet Cornelia would have mentored her as she grew up (overcompensating, maybe?). That said, I think she'd still be a very good, wise person even if a bit crazy in the head because of Marianne's assassination and Britannian genes, since I think those are inherent Nunnally traits. She most likely still wants the world to be a better place, but is far more assertive about her wish than her sister Euphie because of her kicking-ass factor.

And of course, a healthy Nunnally would be fiercely protective of her stamina-impaired, slightly socially-handicapped big brother. Not to mention jealous.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
I'm only slightly socially-handicapped because I have anger issues and don't actually care about these political niceties. They're a waste of time. :\

But yes, Nunnally would be an ACE pilot.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
That's exactly why your AU self is still an incestuous virgin

Speaking of which, at this age, Euphie and Nunally probably have EPIC fights over you.

You do realize that my sole objective is to traumatize the AUed cast with an invalid canon Nunnally, right?

Ideologically speaking, I think your AU Nunnally questions and undermines the system in her own polite, idealistic way - and a lot - which probably makes her look odd from the other royals' POV. But then again, she is Marianne's daughter, so they probably figure non-conventional views come with the package and still respect her for kicking ass.

And I can totally see Lelouch being shocked at finding a Nunnally who doesn't have fights with him. XD

Date: 2011-01-17 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whenknightfalls.livejournal.com
That sounds good! I've been thinking about it and it might be fun to make Suzaku a member of the JLF under Tohdoh. Like, a world where he never meets Lelouch either, and he doesn't kill his father, but his father dies resisting Britannian rule anyway. Of course Japan was still defeated but with moar violence. While Suzaku isn't pleased about the lives lost, he believes it's necessary to keep fighting to get Japan out from under Britannian rule. Screw ya'll and your Area 11, we're Japanese!1! And so forth.

Date: 2011-01-18 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
Awesome! Also, Your à propos icon made me giggle. XD

Date: 2011-01-18 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whenknightfalls.livejournal.com
I love my sexy samurai icon~

Date: 2011-01-18 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
OMG A++ expansion on the idea! I love the idea of revolutionary!Suzaku fighting as second-in-command to Tohdoh. LOL you're basically Zero again but ANGRIER. You will be a totally vicious brat, I suspect. Lelouch will consider you a complete upstart. ♥

Date: 2011-01-18 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whenknightfalls.livejournal.com
Yay! I know I love the idea of him being a revolutionary in an AU verse too. And he would totally follow his Tohdoh anywhere.

Also like he would care, you Britannian weakling :P

Date: 2011-01-18 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingsgambit.livejournal.com
You're still a military dog. You've just chosen a different person to hold the leash. :\

Date: 2011-01-18 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeisblind.livejournal.com
But it's Tohdoh. ♥ They can fanboy each other to death.

Date: 2011-01-18 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whenknightfalls.livejournal.com
See, Nunnally understands!

Date: 2011-01-18 03:12 am (UTC)

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